Friday-001

The Indiana Pacers: What was the worst part of this game from Indy's perspective? Take you're pick: Was it that they a) fell behind 36-18 after one quarter, b) scored a mere 9 points in the fourth, c) finished the game with only 72 points on 33 percent shooting, d) ended up with a 44-5 disadvantage in free throw attempts while playing at home, e) lost by 21 despite the fact that Cleveland went 23-for-44 from the foul line (including 10-for-17 for King Crab), or f) BALL.

Yep...I'm gonna go with BALL.

The Detroit Pistons: Well, Joe Dumars finally realized his dream of fielding all four of his big guns (Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva, Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince). The result was...a 92-65 home loss to the Miami Heat in which the Pistons shot 39 percent and got outrebounded 52-25. By the way, that point total was only one above the franchise record for fewest points in a game. Gak.

Said Hamilton (8 points, 4-for-14): "There is no way we should score like this with the offensive guys we've got on this team. We've got to get better. This was a bad night in all aspects of the game."

He's not wrong.

Detroit fell to 1-4 on their current home stand and have now scored below 100 points in 21 of their last 22 games. And they've lost 18 of those games.

The Los Angeles Clippers: It's hard to believe that a few short games ago, The Other L.A. Team was actually threatening to reach .500. But back-to-back double-digit losses to the New Jersey Nyets and Minnesota Timberpoops -- a.k.a. the two worst teams in the league -- have proven, once again, the Clippers are indeed who we thought they were.

The best part is that the Clips held a players-only meeting after getting their butts whupped by the Nyets...and the result was a 14-point loss to the Timberpoops? What the hell did they talk about in that meeting?!

Said Marcus Camby: "We just talked about salvaging the rest of this season and this thing's not over for us and to put Wednesday's loss behind us. Hopefully we could come out and respond the right way, but we didn't."

No kidding.

Added Baron Davis: "We let two games get away that we should have won, had we played with the effort, had we played with the freedom and the mentality that we need to play with in order to be successful. It only gets tougher from this point."

Can we just go ahead and pronounce the Clippers' season dead?

By the way, thanks to Basketbawful reader Wouter for submitting this useless stat of the night from the ESPN Weekend Dime: "The Clippers' Chris Kaman, edged out of an All-Star berth by Randolph, recently became just the fifth center in the league to post two 20-point games in the same season in head-to-head starts against Washington's Brendan Haywood. The others: Shaquille O'Neal (2004-05 season and 2005-06), Orlando's Dwight Howard (2006-07), Milwaukee's Andrew Bogut (2007-08) and Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire (2007-2008)."

Remember: People get paid to look this stuff up. As Wouter said: "Seriously, I had to read that four times before it actually made sense. Then I realized they were talking about Brendan Haywood. Then it didn't make sense again."

The Boston Celtics: Let's say that you're a wanna-be championship contender who's struggling with injury problems, dealing with shaky chemistry, and facing the second night of back-to-back road games against two of your three biggest Eastern Conference rivals. Oh, and you lost the first of those two games in heartbreaking fashion after choking away a 16-point lead. If you were that team, the last thing you'd want to do is provide the second team any additional motivation, especially considering you were already 0-3 against them this season.

And yet that's exactly what the Celtics did when Kendrick Perkins said his team "put a hit out" on Atlanta's Jamal Crawford, who torched the C's for 18, 18, and 17 points off the bench earlier this season.

Said Crawford: "I heard something about it before the game. We got fired up."

Yeah. You could say that. From TrueHoop:

After the Hawks scored only seven points in the first nine minutes, Crawford came off the bench and immediately turned the tide. His half court shot to end the first quarter gave Atlanta its first lead, and he clinched the win with two huge plays late. The first was a long 2-point jumper that banked in -- unintentionally -- as Rajon Rondo fouled him, giving the Hawks a commanding 10-point lead with 3:26 left.

"I didn't yell bank," he admitted, "I think the bank's closed now."

Then, with Boston closing the margin and having the ball, he stole a pass from Rondo and cruised in for a dunk to put Atlanta up 97-88 with 1:05 left and effectively end the proceedings.

In winning, Atlanta swept the season series from a conference foe that has been reluctant to acknowledge them as a rival. ...The win moved Atlanta into sole possession of second place in the East, setting the stage for an uncomfortable possibility for the Celtics -- having to play a second-round series without home-court advantage against an Atlanta squad that owned them in the regular season. Atlanta leads Boston by a half a game and owns the tiebreaker.
Yep. It's really, really official now. The Celtics are in trouble.

Doc Rivers, non-motivational speaker: Regarding his team's chances against the Hawks: "I don't really know if we could have won the game tonight, the way the Hawks were playing. Especially coming off a back-to-back, this is a tough team to play." When a coach of a champion wanna-be states flatly that he doesn't know if his team even had a chance to win a critical game against a heated rival...that's a bad sign.

The New Jersey Nyets: The tragic comedy of the 2009-10 New Jersey Nyets continued with an 81-79 home loss to the lowly Washington Wizards Generals Bullets. And the dagger to New Jersey's heart was the go-ahead jumper by Earl Boykins with 0.4 seconds left. Whew! Back-to-back victories totally would have knocked the Nyets off course in their bid for the worst record in NBA history. Thanks, Earl!

(And thanks to the Nyets for giving up 15 offensive boards and missing 8 free throws.)

The Denver Nuggets: It would have been a pretty tall order for the Nuggets to beat the Thunder in Oklahoma City without 'Melo, but it's worth noting that the 17-point loss was Denver's second-largest defeat of the season.

Said Nuggets coach George Karl: "Our offense at the end of the third quarter just destroyed us. J.R.'s shot selection and turnovers just took a possible comeback and took it to a 20-point game."

J.R. Smith: It's never good when your ooach calls you out like that.

Arron Afflalo Basketbawful reader zyth nominated Afflalo for getting his junk swatted by a one-shoed Kevin Durant. And because we here at Basketbawful aim to please...


Portland's interior defense: The Rockets hit 17 layups, dunked three times and finished with 52 points in the paint in their 104-100 win over the Frail Blazers. You think Portland is missing Greg "Yes, I have a giant schlong, okay?!" Oden and the Vanilla Godzilla?

The Sacramento Kings: After their 101-94 loss to the Jazz in Utah, the Kings are 3-15 since their historic 35-point comeback in Chicago. Meanwhile, after their 106-104 overtime victory over the Hornets in Charlotte, the Bulls are 13-6 during that same stretch and went above .500 (23-22) for the first time since they were 6-5 in late November. Weird, huh?

By the way, did the Sactowners forget Paul Milsap plays for Utah? Sappy almost had a triple double, finishing with 32 points, 14 rebounds and 7 assists while starting in place of the injured Carlos Boozer. By the way, if anybody out there had any doubt whether Boozer was finished as a member of the Jazz after this season, well, there's your answer.

The Gol_en State Warriors: Stephen Jackson returned to Oakland and finally benefited from his old team's complete and utter lack of D. Captain Jack scored 30 of Charlotte's 121 points in the Bobcats' double-digit road win over the second-worst team in the West.

Guess that trade didn't work out so well.

From the AP recap: "Since the trade that also included Acie Law going to the Bobcats in exchange for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic, Charlotte has gone 20-16, improved its scoring average by more than 15 points and moved into a tie with Chicago for the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference. Golden State, on the other hand, is just 10-26 since sending Jackson away -- and scoring 5.2 fewer points."

Friday lacktion report: There's no joy for Chris in Sactown...but there is, as always, lacktion.

Lakers-Sixers: Josh Powell briefly added mushrooms to his diet in a 4 second Super Mario, while Jason Kapono buttoned his overalls for a 45 second Mario of his own!

Celtics-Hawks: YES! MARIO WEST SCORED A 26 SECOND MARIO TO EARN HIS FIRST NAMESAKE STAT OF THE YEAR! Meanwhile, Brian Scalabrine bricked once in 5:21 for a +1 suck differential.

Heat-Pistons: Detroit's Jason Maxiell fouled twice and tossed a brick in 7:33 for a +3.

Bullets-Nyets: Fabricio Oberto fabulously fouled out in 19:06 and lost the rock as well for a 7:2 Voskuhl (against one field goal)!

Frail Blazers-Rockets: Jeff Pendergraph wired two fouls in 2:49 for a +2 suck differential and 2:0 Voskuhl! In non-lacktive news, Steve Blake earned a Calvin Murphy via 14 points and 9 assists!!!

Kings-Jazz: Donte Greene, as the purple paupers' starting forward, bricked once in 4:24 for a +1, while Jon Brockman negated two boards in 12:10 with 5 fouls and a loss of the rock for a 6:2 Voskuhl!

Not lacktion, but still noteworthy: Tyreke "The Freak" Evans with a Dantley by scoring 13 of 25 points from the stripe. (And in the Bobcats-Warriors game, Ronald Murray scored 8 of 12 points in charity for his own Dantley as well.)
Saturday-001

The Atlanta Hawks: Hmm...second night of back-to-backs...playing on the road against a good team...and the result is a 104-86 blowout. Where have we heard this one before? Dwight Howard finished with 31 points and 19 rebounds, J.J. Redick dished out a career-high 7 assists, and Jamal Crawford came back down to earth by shooting 6-for-17 from the field. The Hawks have now lost six straight times to the Magic, including all three games this season.

Said Atlanta coach Mike Woodson: "We haven't figured [Orlando] out, that's all I can tell you." Thanks for the words of wisdom, coach.

Hawks bench
Time for the official "sad bench" photo.

The New York Knicks: The latest humiliation in the latest season full of humiliations: a 10-point loss to the Wizards Generals Bullets. And they resurrected Mike Miller in the process. Miller scored a season-high 25 points -- including 17 in the third quarter -- and hit seven three-pointers.

HAND. IN. THE. FACE.

Of course, it's not all the players' fault. Bricks coach Mike 'Antoni ordered up a zone defense. Said 'Antoni: "You roll the dice a little bit, and this time it got us. I just didn't have a good feeling about us guarding them man-to-man."

You thought man-to-man would turn out worse than Mike Miller returning from the dead to drill seven threes?!

The Memphis Grizzlies: The Griz had their 11-game home winning streak snapped and blew holes in my theory about what happens to teams playing on the road on the second night of back-to-backs against a good team. The Hornets -- who were without Chris Paul, by the way -- were coming off a tough OT loss at home to the Bulls but managed to pull out a 109-102 OT win in Memphis. After the Grizzlies built a 21-point lead in the third quarter? And New Orleans rookie Darren Collison stepped in for CP3 and delivered a Collison a 17-point, 18 assist performance?

Whhhhaaaaaaa...?

Maybe I was a little too forgiving of that 7-point loss in San Antonio on Friday.

The Miami Heat: Hey, the East's leading candidate for "Bipolar Girlfriend Team of the Year" struck again! One night after almost holding the Pistons to a new franchise low for points scored in a game, the Heat lost 95-84 to the Bucks. Normally, I'd blame the supporting cast, but on this night we turn a hairy eyeball toward...

Dwayne Wade: The line: 6-for-20 from the field, 0-for-6 from downtown and a co-game-high 4 turnovers. Plus, he was limited to 31 minutes due to foul trouble. (He finished with 5 personals.)

Brandon Jennings, quote machine: Regarding Charlie Bell, who spent most of the game guarding Pookie: "I guess we got the D-Wade stopper on the team right now."

I wouldn't want to be Charlie Bell next time the Bucks play the Heat. I'm just sayin'.

The Sacramento Kings: Ugh. Make it 3-16 since their historic 35-point comeback in Chicago. And now, the obligatory facepalm picture, courtesy of Dan. B.

Kings facepalm

The Dallas Mavericks: After a recent 1-point win over the Wizards Generals Bullets -- in which Shawn Marion blocked Caron Butler's last-second shot attempt -- Jason Kidd said:

"Winning on a defensive possession, you wouldn't say that in the past about the Mavericks. It would be us trying to get a basket on the other end. This year, we've really focused on playing defense. We looked at the last champions and said, 'Hey, they all played defense.' So that's what we're focused on right now, and Shawn really made a great play on Caron at the end."
So...this is a new era of defense in Dallas, eh? Then please explain to me, Jason, why you guys lost 114-112 in overtime at home to the Portland Frail Blazers after letting Andre Miller score a career-high 52 points, including 25 in the fourth quarter and the OT?

Yeah. That's what I thought.

Bad timing: Basketbawful reader gordon gartrelle asked: "Have you all commented on this Kobe/Lebron gun-themed "controversy?" ESPN and the NBA get the gasface for this nonsense." No, I haven't. This is just another sign of the general wussification of our society in general and the NBA in particular.

Saturday lacktion report: More lacktion from Chris, who has already started planning for the next NBA draft.

Hawks-Magic: Jason Collins took down an offensive rebound in 5:28, but fouled four times and lost the rock once for a 5:1 Voskuhl.

Knicks-Bullets: Dominic McGuire seems intent on beating Steve Novak in an Excite Bike race for most lacktive baller, as evidenced by blasting off a celebratory 3 second Super Mario!!!!

Hornets-Grizzlies: Aaron Gray countered a couple of boards in 6:24 with a trio of fouls to give New Orleans a 3:2 Voskuhl.

Heat-Bucks: Jodie Meeks became Starfox's wingman for a brief 52 seconds, earning himself a Mario!

Frail Blazers-Mavs: Erick Dampier once again lived up to his share of the Mark Cuban fortune by negating a trio of boards with three fouls in 24:53 and a giveaway for a 4:3 Voskuhl.
Sunday-001

The San Antonio Spurs: The Spurs were playing at home, and the Nuggets were without Carmelo Anthony. That should have more than balanced out the fact that Tony Parker was also MIA, particularly since George Hill stepped in for TP and stepped up with 17 points (8-for-16) and 4 assists. Sadly, San Antonio still got handled as Kenyon Martin (27/11/4) totally outplayed Tim Duncan (16/10/1). The final score (103-89) wouldn't have even been that close if the Nuggets hadn't had a case of bumble-itis (19 turnovers for 27 points going the other way).

By the way, Martin's 27 points was a season-high. Moreover, Denver shot 53.6 percent from the field...and only three teams have had a better single-game FGP against the Spurs this season. Oddly enough, San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich was more grumpy about his team's offense than its defense. The Spurs shot 43 percent for the game and missed 14 of their 17 three-point attempts.

Said Pops: "People need to step up and start making shots."

Are we all finally comfortable shutting and locking SA's championship window? The draft is really starting to annoy me. Speaking of which...

The Boston Celtics: After losing tough back-to-back road games against the Magic and Hawks -- the latter of which they helped facilitate with the "Tanya Harding" they took out on Jamal Crawford -- the Celtics were looking to salvage a little pride by winning their only regular season home game against the hated Lakers.

Didn't happen...despite the fact that they were up by 11 points (81-70) with just under nine minutes to go. The defining moment of the Celtics' collapse was when Paul Pierce got called for an obvious one-armed pushoff on a very floppery Ron Artest with 27 seconds left and the Leprechauns clinging to a 1-point lead. Ironically, that move is Kobe Classic, by which I actually mean it's a Michael Jordan Classic from back in the day. And Doc Rivers knows it: "At that point, I think it's got to be unbelievable, but I didn't see it so I really can't give an opinion on it. You know, I do know Kobe pushes off a lot."

That, of course, set up a dagger by Kobe. Boston's last shot was an ugly three-pointer by Ray Allen, who was forced to shoot over Lamar Odom. I couldn't help but think: You know, guys, you only needed a two-pointer for the win.

The thing that really struck me watching this game was that Rajon Rondo is, by far, Boston's best player. Like, it's not even close. KG ended up with 10 points, 9 boards and 5 turnovers. Pierce went 4-for-11 and had more fouls (5) than rebounds and assists (4). And Ray Allen finished with 7 points on 2-for-10 shooting. Heck, Tony Allen (14 points, 6-for-9, 3 boards, 2 steals and a block in only 25 minutes) was Boston's second-best player. In fact, the C's might have gotten blown out in the first half if not for him.

At this point, the only hope the Celtics have is...BALL.

By the way, with everybody creaming themselves over Kobe's game-winner, it's worth noting that the Lakers needed that shot from Mamba in part because he was 8-for-20 and took five or six of the worst shots known to man during the second half. Leaning, fading, falling away from deep...the dude was forcing some terrible percentage shots. That garbage may work against an obviously slumping Boston squad, but it probably won't cut it against, say, the Craboliers. Something to think about. Speaking of crustaceans...

The Los Angeles Clippers: After back-to-back losses to the league's two worst teams, what d'you suppose happened when The Other L.A. Team had to play the league's best team on the road?

Yeah.

The Clippers fell behind 46-20 in the first 12 minutes -- during which the Crabs tied an NBA record for three-pointers made in one quarter (11) -- and the game was basically a lost cause from that point on. The three-point barrage, which included two by LeBron from, like, 30 feet out, left Mike Dunleavey, well, stunned.

"I've got money that I'll put them in the gym naked, nobody else on them, and they probably can't make 11 out of 13 again from the same spots. They hit some shots in that first quarter that I know in 30 years of being in the NBA that I've [never] seen a team make."

Wait, wait, wait. Why naked, Mike?! Basketbawful Marc S. has a theory: "I can only assume that by 'naked,' Dumbleavy meant that nobody would guard the Cavaliers in question, but on second thought, maybe this is a little-known Clippers practice technique, which would explain a lot."

Anyway, clearly things got out of hand, and fast. It was so bad that, in the second period, L.A.'s Rasual Butler deflected a pass by Jamario Moon right into his own bucket. That play was so Clippery it should be put on the frachise's all-time lowlight reel. By the way, that 46-point first quarter tied a Crabs' franchise mark for the most points in a single period, and Cleveland's 16 three-pointers missed the team record for threes in a game by one.

Let's face it: The Clippers are who we thought they were.

The Detroit Pistons: Make it 1-5 on their home stand. And they lost to the Magic -- who were playing the second game of back-to-backs -- despite the fact that Orlando lost Jameer Nelson (knee) and Mickael Pietrus (ankle) to injury and had Vince Carter and Rashard Lewis in foul trouble. Oh, and Dwight Howard missed 10 free throws.

How many breaks do the Pistons need?

A few more, apparently. They were down only three points (89-86) and had the ball with nine seconds left, but Ben Gordon opted to pass instead of shoot and the ball was intercepted by Anthony Johnson. Said BG: "I just made a bad decision. I was in the corner and tried to get it to Tayshaun, but Anthony Johnson made a great play. I have to make better decisions with the ball."

No wonder Gordon never wants to pass.

The New Jersey Nyets: The tragic comedy of the 2009-10 New Jersey Nyets continued with an 83-79 home loss to the Philadelphia 76ers. The Nyets actually had a chance to tie the game with eight seconds left, but New Jersey coach Kiki Vandeweghe called what may be the dumbest play known to man, judging solely by how it looked and what it resulted in...which was an awful miss by Jarvis Hayes from about 30 feet from the hoop.

And here is Kiki's post-game quote, as provided by AnacondaHL (with his commentary in brackets): "Last play... I'm gonna take responsibility for that [really now]... We tried to run something that was perhaps a little tricky [so you AND the players were too stupid to pull it off. Got it.]... It was basically a series of flairs is what it ends up, uhm, but, it was a play you typically run from the full court, and we tried to run it at the half court [you are all awful]..."

The saddest postscript on this game comes from former Clipper and current $80 million failure Elton Brand: "No disrespect to the Nets franchise, but [we] couldn't lose this game today. They do have talent over there and they've been in games. I've been on some poor teams, but none so poor that we had only four [wins] more than halfway through." Remember: BRAND WAS A CLIPPER!! Plus, he was on a Chicago Bulls squad that won 17 and 15 games in back-to-back seasons.

Ouch, baby. Major ouch.

The New York Knicks: I honestly thought the Knicks had hit the low point of their season when they got torched by Mike Miller in a loss to the Wizards Generals Bullets. (For further reading, see several paragraphs ago.) Well, I was wrong, okay? I was so very, very wrong...thanks to New York's 112-91 loss to the Minnesota Timberpoops, who I must once again remind you are the second-worst team in the league.

I know playing back-to-back games is rough, but is it that rough? Apparently so. I mean, Minny's bench outscored the Bricks' reserves 51-8. Eek.

After the game, New York coach Mike 'Antoni had to insist that his team hasn't, you know, quit and stuff. "They care. They're trying. No excuses, but a little short-handed. Playing 8 o'clock last night, flying here and playing 6 o'clock doesn't help. We've had a tough schedule last weekend and this weekend and the guys are showing a little bit of it."

Uh huh. Again I say: Does anybody still think LeBron is gonna want to join this team next season?

Sunday lacktion report: Why does Chris love Sunday? Because not only did he get to eat at his favorite Sactown restaraunt, the Kings didn't play...which meant they couldn't lose for a change! Now, onto the lacktivity:

Nuggets-Spurs: Keith Bogans pocketed a 5 trillion for Team Popovich (5:01) while Ian Mahinmi was also in the mood for gold coins, as seen with a 52 second Mario! In a semi-contributory update, Manu Ginobili earned a Calvin Murphy with 14 points and 9 assists.

Lakers-Celtics: Sasha Vujacic bricked once at the (TD)Gaaahden for a +1 in 6:11.

Clippers-Crabs: The Lacktion Brothers are IN THE HOUSE once again at the Q, as Darnell "The Original Lacktion" Jackson tossed a brick from Euclid Avenue for a +1 in 2:28, while Cedric "Lacktion II: Electric Boogaloo" Jackson pinched out a 2.45 trillion in that same timespan!!! For the Team That Is Who We Thought They Were, former Hornet Bobby Brown missed one shot in 2:28 for a +1.

Sixers-Nyets: Philadelphia's Jason Smith earned a Madsen-level 1:0 Voskuhl in 3:23 by countering an assist with a brick and foul.

Suns-Rockets: Jarron Collins took a foul and tossed a brick in 1:41 for a +2 that also earned a 1:0 Madsen-level Voskuhl! (Steve Nash, in non-lacktive news, scored a Dantley by tossing no bricks from 6 attempts at the stripe, as opposed to 8 bricks in the field.)

Knicks-Wolves: In this not-so-eagrly-awaited pillow fight, Toney Douglas bricked once from St. Anthony Falls for a +1 in 2:47, a suck differential matched by Minnesota's Alexsandar Pavlovic in 1:50 with a brick of his own.

Warriors-Thunder: Vladimir Radmanovic lost the rock once in 2:39 and added a miss from the field for a +2, while ERIC MAYNOR makes his maiden appearance in the ledger with a rather large +6 in 10:34 via brick, two fouls, and three celebratory giveaways!!!!!

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60 Comments:
Anonymous Hellshocked said...
How bizarre is it that Andre Miller of all people scored 52? He is slow, pudgy, old, unathletic and above all else can't shoot worth a lick. I certainly would have had him near the bottom of the list of point guards most likely to score 50 points at the beginning of the season.

Did anyone else read these quotes by Dwight Howard from a few days back regarding the Defensive Player of the Year award?

"[Josh Smith]is a great shot-blocker, and to be a great defender you must be able to block shots."

"Most people don't realize that he is among the top four in the league in blocked shots this season. So he definitely should be up there." (on Brendan Haywood)

"I just love playing defense. I love blocking shots and rebounding." (on himself)

That right there pretty much exemplifies why I think Howard is a mediocre defender and a joke of a DPOY award recipient.

Blogger Dan B. said...
On Friday, Bill Simmons had J.A. Adande on his podcast, and they discussed this year's most clutch players. Bill declared that if his life depended on somebody winning the game for his team in the last few seconds of the game, this season he wanted the ball in Dirk Nowitzki's hands. Adande, of course, said he'd give it to Kobe, despite the fact that the numbers say Kobe isn't anywhere nearly as clutch as people believe. So what happens this weekend? Dirk is MIA most of the game against the Frail Blazers, but comes alive in the 4th to help force OT... but then gets shut down in overtime. Meanwhile, Kobe hits a game-winner against the Celtics. Well, then.

Hellshocked -- It's amazing to me how many players in the NBA seem to be clueless about the fundamentals of the game. Blocking a shot is about 1/10th as important as cutting off angles to the basket, cutting off passing lanes, boxing him out, frustrating the shooter and getting in his head by doing all those things constantly, etc. Especially when you consider Pumaman's blocks -- yes, they're usually spectacularly violent smother chickens, but they also go out of bounds 99% of the time and let the other team retain possession.

Ball.

Blogger Preveen said...
I dunno why I find it so funny, but "Lacktion II: Electric Boogaloo" has me LMAOing

Anonymous Stockton said...
I don't know what's happening to US basketball. Is it because the players are leaping college to enter the NBA? There are zero fundamentals! Rodman was a great rebounder, but he wasn't either that tall or athletic. 80% of rebounding is geting position, not jumping like a fool!!!

On a diferent subject: we all know now the cause of Oden's injuries. That "thing" shown in picture is surelly disturbing the body's balance, thus pressuring his back and knees. I know, because I deal with the same problems (and by that, I mean... well, you know...).

Anonymous Stockton said...
Let's not forget the Jazz were without All-Star D-Will and future MMM (max-money-man) Boozer in their win against the Kings...

Blogger Preveen said...
WOTN nomination for Coach of the Year-
Cleveland coach Mike Brown liked the first quarter shooting display, but was even more impressed by the way James commanded the huddle during timeouts in the second half. James and his teammates realized the momentum and the lead were slipping away, but fought to keep the margin in double figures. Brown said that is the type of self-coaching the Cavaliers will need to do in the postseason.

"We let the game slip away a little bit, and once we realized it, I didn't have to say much," Brown said. "The win is great, but for me, that was the most exciting part -- listening to my players in the huddle. That gets the little hairs on my head standing straight up."


Ta daaa! Maybe they can fire the coach and let LeBron be the coach like Bill Russell.


VW : pruck. Let the jokes write themselves.

Blogger Basketbawful said...
I don't know what's happening to US basketball. Is it because the players are leaping college to enter the NBA? There are zero fundamentals! Rodman was a great rebounder, but he wasn't either that tall or athletic. 80% of rebounding is geting position, not jumping like a fool!!!

Yup. That's why Larry Bird managed to average 10 RPG for 13 seasons while playing alongside two other dominate rebounders (Robert Parish and Kevin McHale)...and Bird couldn't leap over a puddle.

On a diferent subject: we all know now the cause of Oden's injuries. That "thing" shown in picture is surelly disturbing the body's balance, thus pressuring his back and knees. I know, because I deal with the same problems (and by that, I mean... well, you know...).

Ball.

Preveen -- This is about the fourth or fifth time this season that Mike Brown has openly admitted to not coaching the Crabs for stretches of games and even entire games. I need that job.

Blogger Adam said...
Rondo was playing out of his freaking mind and is definitely the only reason Boston had a handle for a good portion of the game.

As much as I hate to say it, once all the mummies on the team are finally put to rest, Rondo and one or two guys he can play in concert with will provide a solid future for the Celtics.

Blogger chris said...
Bawful/Preveen: This begs the question...

Who spends less time doing actual work for the crustaceans, Mike Brown or the Lacktion Brothers?

Blogger AnacondaHL said...
On the Friday pic, it looks like both players are thinking about Ball.

I'm now the unproud owner of an Indiana Pacer on my fantasy team. Brandon Rush, and this led me to discover the awful roulette of the Pacers starting rotation this year.

Blogger Preveen said...
Yeah, he has, but already saying they will need to coach themselves in the post season?!? What the heck are they paying him for??

Blogger chris said...
Preveen: Well, it DID kinda work for three rounds in 2007 with a worse team...right? Maybe he thinks this is how Doc Rivers won a title in Beantown?

Blogger chris said...
Bawful: It's amazing to watch any Kings game and realize that sentinent fact - the importance of positioning to the battle of the boards - is so ignored by pretty much anybody. Come on, is it really THAT hard to mark your spot near the basket?

Blogger Basketbawful said...
Come on, is it really THAT hard to mark your spot near the basket?

I wonder that all the time in pickup ball. Whenever a shot goes up, my very first thought -- actually it's more like an instinct now -- is to make contact with the man I'm guarding and form a wall between him and the basket. If everybody on your team does that, the other team won't get many offensive rebounds.

Blogger chris said...
Bawful: Makes me wonder if any team in today's Association still bothers to work on positional play...the Celtics sometimes can do it when they're not busy collecting Medicare.

Anonymous BW in Cleveland said...
@Bawful

This is what drives me nuts with athletic 4's like Hickson. They have aboslutely no "feel" or instinct in regards to WHERE they should be. For example, putback dunks off of missed jumpers should NEVER happen. If your man is not crashing the offensive glass, you really should be in the center of the paint, square to the basket to keep anyone from coming over the top. I can't tell you how many times guys just stand there and watch jumpers go clank and the lane is completely wide open for someone to bust through. I've seen more contact in the butcher shop during weekend pickup games.

Anonymous BW in Cleveland said...
**That last post of mine is coming from a guy who is 5'8" 165 and never played a lick of HS ball. I still get a ton of boards because I'll use by backside and lower body strength to muscle people from getting deeping in the paint. It doesnt hurt that I can jump well, but that is far less important than creating distance between you're guy and the rim.

Anonymous Hellshocked said...
Stockton:

Rodman was certainly not tall (6'7, as I recall) but he was very, very athletic. The dude was strong, super quick and could sky with the best of them.

Your point still stands though. Rebounding has little to do with size or athleticism and everything to do with desire. If you have the heart for it, you can be (at worst) a good rebounder simply by boxing out and fighting for the ball like your life depends on it. It helps, of course, if you're 7'2, 290 pounds and blessed with a 40 inch vertical leap but it is in no way a determinant. Kevin Love is undersized and (for NBA standards) a very subpar athlete but he is far and away one of the best rebounders in the league. Minnesota games are a clinic in how to become a great rebounder (and in increasing one's threshhold for self inflicted ocular trauma).

Basketbawful:

The problem I find with boxing out in pickup ball (and I do it too, on instinct) is that if the other guys don't do it as well then it is almost pointless. Sure, you kept one guy locked down but doing so might also have kept you out of position for the incoming rebound for which you will now also have to fight 3 or 4 other guys.

I think the lack of boxing out in the NBA has a lot to do with the decrease in physical play. In order to consistently box out you have to be willing to push, shove, lean and hold your ground. It requires you to sacrifice your body and to spend quite a bit of energy, energy which most players would rather spend launching a fadeaway three with 17 seconds left on the shot clock. The fact that boxing out doesn't even necessarily guarantee you a rebound (much less a highlight on sportscenter) also plays into it, I'm sure. Why bother when someone else might wind up with the credit on the stat sheet, right?

Blogger In BC We Trust said...
MARIO WEST HAS BEEN SIGNED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64403/20100201/hawks_sign_west_for_remainder_of_09_10/

Blogger Basketbawful said...
This is what drives me nuts with athletic 4's like Hickson. They have aboslutely no "feel" or instinct in regards to WHERE they should be. For example, putback dunks off of missed jumpers should NEVER happen. If your man is not crashing the offensive glass, you really should be in the center of the paint, square to the basket to keep anyone from coming over the top. I can't tell you how many times guys just stand there and watch jumpers go clank and the lane is completely wide open for someone to bust through. I've seen more contact in the butcher shop during weekend pickup games.

First, there are some mitigating circumstances for allowing offensive boards. Such as long rebounds off three-point attempts. Or maybe defensive switching. Or even when the other team sends everybody crashing the boards. But consistently, no, these things should not happen. And when a team is determined to protect its own boards, they usually don't.

The problem I find with boxing out in pickup ball (and I do it too, on instinct) is that if the other guys don't do it as well then it is almost pointless.

Amen. I can't tell you how many times I've been holding back an opposing big man only to watch a guard stroll in for the offensive board. Makes me really, really angry.

MARIO WEST HAS BEEN SIGNED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!

Huzzah!!

Blogger Basketbawful said...
I think the lack of boxing out in the NBA has a lot to do with the decrease in physical play. In order to consistently box out you have to be willing to push, shove, lean and hold your ground. It requires you to sacrifice your body and to spend quite a bit of energy, energy which most players would rather spend launching a fadeaway three with 17 seconds left on the shot clock. The fact that boxing out doesn't even necessarily guarantee you a rebound (much less a highlight on sportscenter) also plays into it, I'm sure. Why bother when someone else might wind up with the credit on the stat sheet, right?

You know, I can't agree more. This is part of why I always bristle when people say Karl Malone didn't deserve teh 1997 MVP award. Was Jordan the better player? Yes. But Malone, in addition to scoring almost as well as MJ (and much more efficiently) was also Utah's primary rebounder/menace in the paint. Trust me when I tell you, especially back in the brutal 1990s, inside play is much more grueling than hanging out on the perimeter. Malone absorbed much more physical punishment that season than Jordan did, his was statistically superior (leading the league in PER, btw) and led the Jazz to 64 wins.

I will accept an argument that it was close and that Jordan could have won it...but it's not the robbery that some people make it out to be.

Blogger chris said...
In BC We Trust: This gives me hope that...Ostertag will come out of retirement? the Lacktion Brothers spending their entire careers together pinching away at treasure chests?!

Blogger chris said...
So reading the Mario West signing article...

He's averaging less than a point per game, but is shooting 50%!?

It's too bad they don't list out how many minutes, er seconds a game he's garnering so far.

Blogger AnacondaHL said...
Fun with stats:

League average is 26.4% ORR, Grizz leading with 32.9%, due to Z-Bo, Thabs, and Little Gas.

Check out OUR BOY MARIO WEST leading all guards this season in ORR!

Anyways, looks like Russell Westbrook leads the pack in total OREBs and OREB/g. Wade and Rondo up there too. So I guess the moral is, don't play pickup with these guys, cause they will piss you off on 5% of your missed shots!

Blogger chris said...
AnacondaHL: You know it's an extremely bawful calculation of ORR when two other lacktators (JR Giddens and Lester Hudson) are in the top 10 as well!!!!!

Blogger AnacondaHL said...
I suppose it makes sense. If you play so few minutes (or seconds), aren't they during times when you'd want to crash the board for possessions?

Here's to finishing the season tracking The Mario.

Blogger Basketbawful said...
Here's to finishing the season tracking The Mario.

Amen.

I seriously have to see what it would take to get an interview with Mario.

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What, no mention of David West's final play of regulation Friday night that cost the Hornets a much needed game and got Chris Paul injured?

It was a Bulls game, so I know you watched it.

Blogger chris said...
Bawful: Scott Hastings, Mario West, the Lacktion Brothers, Steve Novak, Dominic McGuire.

These guys are all begging for some face time on this grand website.

Maybe a brief blurb on Brian Cook's 0.0 second Luigi might be worthwhile, too!

Anonymous kazam92 said...
"I wouldn't want to be Charlie Bell next time the Bucks play the Heat. I'm just sayin'"


How funny? The heat played the bucks on Saturday and play them again tonight.


Also Andre Miller has the distinction of being one of the few players to score 50+ after scoring 2 his last game

Blogger Basketbawful said...
What, no mention of David West's final play of regulation Friday night that cost the Hornets a much needed game and got Chris Paul injured?

Hm. Good point. That was pretty turrible. I mean, to throw the ball away, give away the game, AND unintentionally injury your team's best player in the process (and Paul is gonna need surgery!) I guess I overlooked it because clearly the Bulls were a Team of Destiny on that road trip...

...but yeah, West definitely deserves a Worst Of.

Blogger Basketbawful said...
Scott Hastings, Mario West, the Lacktion Brothers, Steve Novak, Dominic McGuire. These guys are all begging for some face time on this grand website.

A contact was supposed to hook me up with Scott Hastings last year, but it fell through. I have to get back on that...

Anonymous Aotoa said...
OMG! NASH has no TO both in game and OT!

He got BALLS!

Blogger Dan B. said...
Look at what I just spotted on the main page at ESPN.com... an amazing example of one of the many varieties of Duncan Face!

Blogger Basketbawful said...
Look at what I just spotted on the main page at ESPN.com... an amazing example of one of the many varieties of Duncan Face!

I think we need to update the Duncan face post. What would this face be called...?

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ball!

Anonymous kazam92 said...
The Duncan silhouette?

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think we need to update the Duncan face post. What would this face be called...?

"Boo!"?

Blogger Dan B. said...
The "I am shocked! Shocked I say!" face?

Anonymous Aotoa said...
How about The Spurs-can't-win-another-title-with-Duncan-this-year face?

Blogger stephanie g said...
I wonder how Mr. West would react to being the face of basketball lacktion. I wonder if he ever found this site after googling himself.

Blogger Rogue said...
Basketbawful , [URL="http://www.asia-basket.com/China/basketball.asp?NewsID=183280"] Check out Marbury. [/URL]. Hope you don't leave him out on the next edition of bawful.

Blogger chris said...
stephanie g - I REALLY want to see Mr. West photoshopped into the plumbers' overalls of Nintendo's mascot!!!

Blogger chris said...
BTW, stephanie, the Bawful page on our beloved Mario stat is only on PAGE 8 of Google search for "Mario West!" We MUST rectify this somehow.

Blogger chris said...
And I guess we weren't the only ones who were fascinated by THE Mario West's short-tenure play over the last few years!

Blogger Basketbawful said...
I REALLY want to see Mr. West photoshopped into the plumbers' overalls of Nintendo's mascot!!!

Seconded! Anybody got some mad PhotoShop skills?

Blogger Wild Yams said...
Mr. Bawful - 'The defining moment of the Celtics' collapse was when Paul Pierce got called for an obvious one-armed pushoff on a very floppery Ron Artest with 27 seconds left and the Leprechauns clinging to a 1-point lead. Ironically, that move is Kobe Classic, by which I actually mean it's a Michael Jordan Classic from back in the day. And Doc Rivers knows it: "At that point, I think it's got to be unbelievable, but I didn't see it so I really can't give an opinion on it. You know, I do know Kobe pushes off a lot."'

Just to show you that the refs called that both ways, check out this phantom push off foul they called on Kobe yesterday. Even though Ron Artest flopped his way off the court and into the stands, at least Pierce did commit the foul on that play at the end. I don't know what Salvatore was looking at when he called Kobe for that foul I just linked to.

Good writeup today though, I was worried it was gonna be filled with excuses, but it definitely wasn't. Do you see what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I said there seems to be more wrong with Boston than just missing KG? I still don't understand why they aren't playing better, though at stretches in both the Orlando and Lakers games they did look pretty good. But what is with them falling apart in the fourth quarters of these games now? I think you're right that Garnett looks like he's lost a lot of his fire that he used to have, and that's definitely just as worrisome as his physical limitations right now. It almost seems like he's lost confidence in himself or his team or both. I refuse to believe that KG, Pierce and Ray Ray have all fallen off so dramatically in terms of effectiveness that that is what explains this latest tailspin the Celtics are in. There's no way all of those guys suddenly got "too old" overnight at the same time or something. I think there's something else going on there, be it bad chemistry or poor coaching or something.

BTW, Rasheed probably could have got his own mention for yesterday's game. 3 points and one rebound in 21 minutes (he did have 4 assists and 2 steals though), but he also racked up his 14th technical foul of the season. Two more and he'll be facing a one game suspension, and there's still three months left in the season.

Blogger Basketbawful said...
Just to show you that the refs called that both ways, check out this phantom push off foul they called on Kobe yesterday. Even though Ron Artest flopped his way off the court and into the stands, at least Pierce did commit the foul on that play at the end. I don't know what Salvatore was looking at when he called Kobe for that foul I just linked to.

Right before Kobe begins his drive, he swipes his arm at Allen. That's what caused the whistle, as far as I could tell when I watched it live (and, subsequently, in the video you linked to). And, like then, I felt like it was a weak one that shouldn't have been called.

Do you see what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I said there seems to be more wrong with Boston than just missing KG? ... I think there's something else going on there, be it bad chemistry or poor coaching or something.

Well, we have to keep in mind that, even without a key rotation player (Marquis Daniels) and KG as, what, about 60-70 percent, the Celtics came within a hair of beating Orlando on the road and the Lakers in Boston. So their "bad" isn't horrible. And assuming KG can get healthy, they'll still be hanging around come playoff time.

That said, I question the coaching. A lot of people seemed to forget that Doc Rivers was almost run out of Boston before Danny Ainge dealt for KG and Ray Allen. He came up with the whole Umbuntu thing, and he rallied the team around the whole "heart of a champion" thing last season. But his motivational gimmickery has run out, and now the Celtics seem kind of aimless. They've lost their edge. They seem to have realized how fragile their hopes are, or, rather, how fragile the knees their championship hopes are riding on are.

It doesn't help that 'Sheed has been more of a distraction and a disappointment than anything else. Maybe the right coaching could have brought him around, kind of like Phil Jackson has done with Artest (who hasn't been consistently great, or even very good, but who has been dutiful and focused). But Wallace is out of shape and just as prone to boneheaded technicals as ever. 2007-08 KG wouldn't have let that shit go...but 2009-10 KG is just trying to keep his own shit together.

Before, the combined talents of KG, Allen and Pierce, and the self-policing everybody did, held the team together. A lot of that has changed.

Make KG better and the Celtics might be able to turn things around. But there are echoes of the late Bird era Celtics here, where everybody kept saying, "If Bird, McHale and Parish can just stay healthy..."

That's usually fool's gold.

Blogger Wild Yams said...
I'd say I agree with everything you just said. I think you're probably right about Doc's coaching, and KG having to worry about what's going on with himself so much that it isn't letting him steer the ship as much as he normally would. In spite of all the red flags lately, as a Laker fan the Celtics still worry me. Like I said, I refuse to believe that their "Big 3" suddenly all got too old at the same time. They still have a ton of talent over there, and if they start clicking they can hang right there with anyone in the league.

Lots of games left before the playoffs start...

Blogger Ash B said...
Ron Artest hasn't been playing well? He's been shutting down the big Small Forwards (Durant, Pierce, Melo) like he was brought in to do, and he has been hitting 3's at a decent percentage (38%). What else do you want from him?

Anonymous Shiki said...
I know you mentioned the Pacers already, but they need to be mentioned again for letting the Raps shoot 60% from the field. Let me repeat that: SIXTY PERCENT from the field.

Blogger Josh said...
@ Bawful and Yams

I remember thinking that Pierce pushed off Artest and that it was a foul, but that Artest REALLY sold it with a huge flop because the next time he was on camera he was being helped out of the stands.

However, watch Artest's and Pierce's feet in the slo-mo replay: their feet collide and Artest nearly rolls an ankle putting him off balance and that's what sent him tumbling into the stands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cITUqUHQDtU

Don't get me wrong, Artest was fouled before that and was selling it but getting tripped up by Pierce (and let me clarify, the foot collision was NOT Pierce's fault nor was it intentional) is what got him flying out of bounds.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Anonymous Lucky said...
What's up with not including Raptors games in the WOTN/Weekend? They haven't even gotten a mention in their last 3 or 4 games!
Ball!

Anonymous rakeback said...
Kevin Durant has quickly become one of the top 5 players in the league, and has taken a team near the bottom of the league and brought them back to a respectable level.

Blogger LotharBot said...
AshB, I seem to remember Melo dropping a cool 25 points on 20 shots, and having a game-leading +/- of +33, when the Lakers got beat by 26 in Denver.

The Lakers, by the way, scored only 23 points in the entire second half.

We'll see if Artest shuts Melo down for the rest of the season -- but in their one meeting thus far, he didn't.

Blogger Ash B said...
Could have sworn they played Denver twice.

Anyway, I still stand by that statement. Artest is doing just what he was brought in to do. And yes, we will see who wins the next Lakers vs. Denver meeting. Enjoy. :)

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the hell is a Calvin Murphy in stat terms? Anybody getting 14 points and 9 assists? And why?

Blogger Dan B. said...
Anonymous -- Here is your definition of a "Calvin Murphy".

Blogger Wild Yams said...
I think Artest is doing a decent job this year, but he hasn't played "great" yet. At the same time, he's still learning the offense and figuring out the team. I'm reserving judgment on him for how he does after the All Star break. Mr. Bawful is right though, Phil (& maybe Kobe) have helped keep Ron's eccentricities from being a distraction far more effectively thus far than Doc and/or KG have done with Sheed in Boston. I think Sheed especially may be a bad influence on some of Boston's younger players, Perkins and Big Baby in particular. We all know about BB's outbursts this year, but Perkins is also nearing his career high in technicals, and I don't know if that's just a coincidence.

Blogger Basketbawful said...
I think Sheed especially may be a bad influence on some of Boston's younger players, Perkins and Big Baby in particular. We all know about BB's outbursts this year, but Perkins is also nearing his career high in technicals, and I don't know if that's just a coincidence.

I personally think 'Sheed has been a poison. These Celtics have always had a swagger bordering on overconfidence, and he pushed it over the edge...much like he did with the Pistons after their first championship. You'll notice that this Boston team has many of the hallmarks of those Detroit teams. Huge array of talent that doesn't always show up against lesser teams, wild statements that come back to haunt them (like the "hit" on Crawford), etc.

And remember 'Sheed's "We're gonna win 70 games" comment? Major stat curse.

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